killing a soldier...

I have about 26hours played on the demo now and about 18hours played as soldier.
I love the demo class and im not sure if it is "Easy mode" or not but it kind of feels like it( i DONT spawn camp/stickie whore)

but to the point. I can kill every class with my pipebomb almost 8/10 times with direct hits
and like to use a combo of stickies and pipes but i seem to have trouble killing soldiers specifically.
when i have the pipe bomb out i cant seem to lead them correctly and when i do hit them it doesnt do much damage.
but the biggest problem is that they can shoot at my feet causing alot of splash dmg very fast, meanwhile my pipes
have a 2sec delay before they can even explode.

tried stickie jumping above them but if you get ambushd or shot at first youre too week.

anyone have a solution?

If you want splash damage, that's what stickies are for.

im not saying i want splash damage...

i want help on "HOW TO KILL A SOLDIER 1V1'

Shoot him.

Srsly.

Either that or run, and let your teammates take him.

Pipe bombs DO a lot of damage against soldiers, 2 or 3 and he`s gone.

Watch what the soldier does: He shoots rockets at your feet so that you can`t avoid the radius damage.
Do the same with stickies: Shoot them at a location where you think he will go. If he goes there, detonate. If he avoids them, don`t detonate but lay down more stickes. When you have lots of stickies around, you WILL hit him with the radius damage.

And try to dodge his rockets. He also needs to guess where you`re going and shoots the ground there. If you don`t go there, he won`t get you.

Try to stay calm.

Don't blow your load too early.

Let him jump around and fire his rockets at you, do your best to dodge them all.  When he fires all four rockets, OR switches to shotgun, jump in close up and nail him with your pipes.  It's basically the same strategy you would use if you were a Scout.  You just have to be mindful that you're not too close to the Soldier, so the splash damage won't kill you when you kill him.

Take your time with your shots, don't just shoot randomly.  Wait for the perfect shots.

The tactic I use against 2v1 or against a soldier is that I shoot some stickys behind him, and some on him, and then fire off my pipes to either hit him or make him move backwards and walk on the stickys.

Soldiers usually rocketjump over your stickys if he can see them, if he does, you're mostly fucked unless you survive and shoot stickys where you will think he will land. You will get one or two stickys off before he lands, and he should have around 100hp left when landing, and that should be enough for your stickys to finish him off.

But really, if you hear someone, or know that someone is around the corner, shoot some stickys around so that you can later run there and kill your follower.


Then again soldier is the easiest and best class for killing.

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 That's what she said. (Sorry Malhavok)

I am no demoman, but from my limited experience of both solly and demo pipe bombs vs soldier are difficult to aim. Practice practice practice is what it takes, but pipe bombs are slow and often unweildy and soldiers are often fast and evasive. Do make an effort to practice precicion, but stickies are often a safer bet- lay them first by his possible escape roots and then aim them at him. If he runs, blow them up. If he fights- lay some down, and blow him up.

I usually cloak and run left, then when im fully cloaked i jump right and -- oh wait.

Pipebomb him in the face. If i miss, I usually fire a sticky at his feet, then detonate it and repeat.

Or, if youre leet, you can use my signiature omfg im so leet strategy: Fire a sticky at his feet. As soon as you can fire a pipe up above him. Then detonate the sticky just before the pipe passes over him, and, with a bit of luck he will be bounced into the pipe from the sticky. Works best on ones that like to jump around. I cant pull this off very often though.

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lol, i can pull that off with pyros, medics, eniges  and snipers. tough to do on soldiers though while evading rockets.

thanx for all the strats and advice, ill put 'em to work.


one more thing, i dont have a problem killing heavies but im not sure if my strat is very efficient.
i usually pipe him 3-4 times, usually 3 and get him weak and then toss a stickie or two at him and explode
in the air around him. it works 99% of the time but im just wondering if anyone has a faster way of doing this.